dccrpg binding

[jozxyqk]

Anyone else had problems with the binding of the gold foil edition? While I've still got all the pages intact, I'm disappointed to report that the binding has separated from the cloth backing at the bottom of the spine. If that makes sense. I don't have picture of the actual book, but per this picture it's as if the pages had separated from the black and white portion.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3651/356 ... d4aa8c.jpg

I'm curious if I'm the only one. I don't think I've been particularly hard on it

[finarvyn]

Mine stays mostly in the box, as I have a "regular" edition that takes most of the beating. My "regular" binding is still solid, however, and this is the first I've heard of any of the rulebooks having binding issues.

[beermotor]

That's sort of happened to my "regular edition" book. Like Finarvyn, my limited edition stays protected.

I carry my regular book around in a "bag of holding" from ThinkGeek, and I think the binding started to sag just a bit because I was putting it into the bag with the binding side up, so the weight of the pages (which is considerable!) was pulling down on it. Storing the book for transport the other way, with the binding side down, may alleviate this problem. Although, It doesn't seem to be a serious problem. Mine hasn't separated all the way like in that picture you posted, but the sides of the binding to which the end boards are attached have definitely lost a little stiffness.

[Raven_Crowking]

My bindings are still good, but if that were my book, I would consider getting a long swab and daubing glue, then closing the book and leaving it binding-side-down for a few days. Bookbinder's glue would be best, but I imagine that wood glue, or even Elmer's would do the trick.

I have done that trick with other books using wood glue, to good effect. But your mileage may vary, and the risks as well as the rewards are your own!

Daniel

[GnomeBoy]

To echo RC, you can re-glue it, as he says. Sobo glue works well, too.

And yeah, I transport all my gaming books binding-side down to protect the bindings.

[jozxyqk]

Huh -- my understanding with regard to the smyth-sewn bindings is that they are *supposed* to function like the book in the picture I initially posted. The sewn portion is should separate from the cardboard spine so the book lays flat. Isn't that right?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3651/356 ... d4aa8c.jpg

http://purbinders.com/wp-content/upload ... -Cloth.jpg

http://www.phochron.com/Portals/0/image ... 20Sewn.png

http://digitalprintingandbinding.com/de ... x18411.jpg

Are people trying to keep that from happening? I certainly don't think you should glue the sewn portion to the spine. My problem is that, aside from that separation, the "cloth" piece between the pages and the spine has separated from the pages. The piece I'm talking about is black and white in the first picture, green and yellow in the second, green and white in the third. It is now sort of "floating" between the spine and the pages.

[GnomeBoy]

Oh, I was talking about re-gluing the part that has separated, not the whole book block to the spine. Because if I'm understanding what you're saying, the next thing that will develop is the signatures (the groupings of pages) separating from each other... and then it's not so much a book anymore...

[jasmith]

Are people trying to keep that from happening? I certainly don't think you should glue the sewn portion to the spine. My problem is that, aside from that separation, the "cloth" piece between the pages and the spine has separated from the pages. The piece I'm talking about is black and white in the first picture, green and yellow in the second, green and white in the third. It is now sort of "floating" between the spine and the pages.

This happens with HC's generally, on occasion. AFAIK, that cloth strip is just cosmetic in modern books and only extends an inch or so, from either end. It's not pretty, but the actual spine isn't damaged.

[Raven_Crowking]

Well, there you go. Listen to people who know more about it than I do.

[jozxyqk]

jasmith -- Thanks! It looks like you're right. Further research based on your comment has disclosed that those little pieces are called "head bands" and "tail bands". They are apparently there "purely for aesthetic purposes." http://editionbinding.com/217/#sthash.EEyUgcHx.dpbs

Whew -- so it looks like the structurally important parts of my binding aren't falling apart. Though as others have noted, the weight of the pages is substantial enough that you seem to have to be pretty careful. I almost wish there was a "lite" edition without spells that was thinner and consequently more able to take a beating.

[Gameogre]

I have had my book for a short period of time but in that time it has been abused badly.

Thrown across the room by a ten ton gorilla who missed the guy he was aiming at and instead it went into a open washing machine. Thank the Gods of Evil Nickers that laundry hadn't been done in a few days.

Dropped on the floor from about four feet up and landed on its spine.

Had a chocolate covered baboon splatter the outside pages with coughed up munchies when he rolled a 1 on his invoke patron.

Placed in a book-bag and then sat on by a hairy chimpanzee.

Was the subject of a terrible struggle between two giant neanderthals as one tried to take it into the bathroom to read while visiting the White Throne.

Last but not least it was used at first as a shield during a deadly pickle ambush and then as a makeshift club to beat back and discourage things from erupting into a full blown food melee.

All that and it still looks pretty dang good.



Sigh, I feel less like a GM and more like a Zoo Keeper.

[GnomeBoy]

At least we know the book is pretty much primate-proof.

[Tortog]

... Thank the Gods of Evil Nickers that laundry hadn't been done in a few days.
...
Last but not least it was used at first as a shield during a deadly pickle ambush and then as a makeshift club to beat back and discourage things from erupting into a full blown food melee.
...
Sigh, I feel less like a GM and more like a Zoo Keeper.

ROTFLMAO! Man does this post bring back memories... Anyone who's GM'ed long enough has a few 'zoo-keeper' stories; but I'm not sure what disturbs me more:

That there are 'Evil Nickers', or that there are so many of them that they've manifested a god of their own to worship.

While I've never had to deal with a pickle ambush; I ran a T.F.O.S. game many years ago that started with a food fight (students vs. the food in the cafeteria) things got out of hand both in and out of game. It's terrifying to see what a lemon custard cookie can do in the hands of someone with a mission. I still have nightmares.

As for the table monkeys, hopefully its, just a phase...

As for book bindings, I haven't had any trouble with mine, but I run my games with my laptop and digital versions of most everything. Most of the folks I've been gaming with lately have digital versions and the ones who don't have been mercifully gentle with the table copy.

[blindelf]

I can only speak to the durability of the regular cover 2nd printing since
I keep my 1st print and wizard cover copies safely on the shelf. But my
2nd printing "table copy" has seen plenty of abuse and is holding up quite well.