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Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:54 am
by finarvyn
For those interested, here are the Fafhrd & Grey Mouser stories "in order" according to the chronology set up by Fritz Leiber. Those stories have been published in paperback anthology form in the 1970's, and I have listed those stories plus publication date in parenthesis. White Wolf put out an omnibus set in the 1990's which published the stories “in order” and I have also included the titles of those in all capital letters.

A couple of the stories have alternate titles, and I have included those as well.

ILL-MET IN LANKHMAR
BOOK I: Swords and Deviltry
1 "Induction" (1957)
2 The Snow Women (1970)
3 "The Unholy Grail" (1962)
4 Ill Met in Lankhmar (1970)
BOOK II: Swords Against Death
5 "The Circle Curse" (1970)
6 "The Jewels in the Forest" AKA "Two Sought Adventure" (1939)
7 "Thieves' House" (1943)
8 "The Bleak Shore" (1940)
9 "The Howling Tower" (1941)
10 "The Sunken Land" (1942)
11 "The Seven Black Priests" (1953)
12 "Claws from the Night" AKA "Dark Vengeance" (1951)

13 "The Price of Pain-Ease" 1970)
14 "Bazaar of the Bizarre" (1963)

LEAN TIMES IN LANKHMAR
BOOK III: Swords in the Mist
15 "The Cloud of Hate" (1963)
16 "Lean Times in Lankhmar" (1959)
17 "Their Mistress, the Sea" (1968)
18 "When the Sea-King's Away" (1960)
19 "The Wrong Branch" (1968)
20 Adept's Gambit (1947)
BOOK IV: Swords Against Wizardry
21 "In the Witch's Tent" (1968)
22 "Stardock" (1965)
23 "The Two Best Thieves in Lankhmar" (1968)
24 The Lords of Quarmall (1964)

RETURN TO LANKHMAR
BOOK V: The Swords of Lankhmar
25 “The Swords of Lankhmar” AKA"Scylla's Daughter" (1968)
BOOK VI: Swords and Ice Magic
26 "The Sadness of the Executioner" (1973)
27 "Beauty and the Beasts" (1974)
28 "Trapped in the Shadowland" (1973)
29 "The Bait" (1973)
30 "Under the Thumbs of the Gods (1973)
31 "Trapped in the Sea of Stars" (1975)
32 "The Frost Monstreme" (1976)
33 Rime Isle (1977)

FAREWELL TO LANKHMAR
BOOK VII: The Knight and Knave of Swords
34 "Sea Magic" (1977)
35 "The Mer She" (1983)
36 The Curse of the Smalls and the Stars (1983)
37 The Mouser Goes Below (1988)

For those interested in only the essential F&GM, there was a hardback called Two Sought Adventure (my copy is from 1957) which compiles the early, and some say the best of the stories. I have highlighted those stories in red for those who want to search for a good starting point. Those include "Induction", "the Jewels in the Forest", "Thieves' house", "the Bleak Shore", "the Howling Tower", "the Sunken Land", "the Seven Black Priests", and "Claws from the Night". An interesting fact is that "Adept's Gambit" was one of the earliest stories but was not included in Two Sought Adventure, so I also highlighted it for those wanting early F&GM literature.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:15 am
by finarvyn
As a follow-up to my earlier post, I thought I would make a few comments about the Fafhrd & Gray Mouser stories according to actual publication date. My focus is on the early fiction, since someone who wants an "essential" reading list would want to start there.

Here are the "original" F&GM stories:
1 "The Jewels in the Forest" AKA "Two Sought Adventure" (1939)
2 "The Bleak Shore" (1940)
3 "The Howling Tower" (1941)
4 "The Sunken Land" (1942)
5 "Thieves' House" (1943)
6 "Adept's Gambit" (1947)
7 "Claws from the Night" AKA "Dark Vengeance" (1951)
8 "The Seven Black Priests" (1953)
9 "Induction" (1957)

What you notice is that Leiber wrote the early stuff from 1939 to 1943 then a lot more irregularly from 1947 through 1957, when Two Sought Adventure came out. This group is, in my opinion, the absolute best of the stories and can be read in pretty much any order.

1959-1977 is when the bulk of the stories were written, most of the fiction that was published as paperbacks in the 1970's when fantasy novels became popular. These are good stories, aimed at trying to "fill in the gaps" and make a complete chronology.

Then a gap of five years before the last flurry of 1983-1988. These stories are, in my opinion, Leiber's weakest as it seems like he was recycling some of his own ideas. On the other hand, there is roughly fifty years from the writing of the first story to that of the last one, and that's a pretty amazing accomplishment.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:38 am
by Gameogre
Wasn't there a Lankhmar Comic book series? I remember there being one but.....off to look it up!

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:03 am
by catseye yellow
yes. mignola's.

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Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:33 pm
by Clangador
I haven't read these books in 20+ years. Looks like it is about time to revisit them.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:35 pm
by finarvyn
Clangador wrote:I haven't read these books in 20+ years. Looks like it is about time to revisit them.
You should do so. They read a lot like RPG campaign logs before D&D was even invented.

Ironically, I started re-reading the series a couple of weeks ago, having no idea that this was looming on the horizon. The Lankhmar books are one of my "back to my roots of gaming" books when I get into a funk and try to recapture the good old days. I first read them back in the 1970's and they were a heavy influence on the way my OD&D campaigns developed back then.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:05 pm
by Golgothmog
finarvyn wrote:I first read them back in the 1970's and they were a heavy influence on the way my OD&D campaigns developed back then.
Yeah, way more than Tolkien it's the Lankhmar stories that I associate with early D&D... discovering both at the same time from the same family of 5 brothers (and 1 poor annoyed sister). Their parents wouldn't allow a TV in the house so they read, played games, built castles, trained seeing eye dogs... all sorts of stuff.
I'm gonna start reading these again in anticipation of the new DCC books and I expect to have a great time.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:12 am
by DM Cojo
Thanks for compiling this! I hope to read some Lieber soon...not being familiar with his writing...but am curious now that DCC has a campaign setting for it!

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:16 pm
by finarvyn
DM Cojo wrote:Thanks for compiling this! I hope to read some Lieber soon...not being familiar with his writing...but am curious now that DCC has a campaign setting for it!
Again, look for the ones in red if you aren't planning on trying to plow through the whole series.

That would mean you might focus your search on "Swords Against Death" if you are searching for the paperback version or "Ill-Met in Lankhmar" if you are looking for the White Wolf hardback omnibus.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:51 pm
by DM Cojo
finarvyn wrote:
DM Cojo wrote:Thanks for compiling this! I hope to read some Lieber soon...not being familiar with his writing...but am curious now that DCC has a campaign setting for it!
Again, look for the ones in red if you aren't planning on trying to plow through the whole series.

That would mean you might focus your search on "Swords Against Death" if you are searching for the paperback version or "Ill-Met in Lankhmar" if you are looking for the White Wolf hardback omnibus.
Well, I have Swords and Deviltry on my nook. Have to see about the others.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:23 pm
by Scottius
I've read through the entire series at this point. I've actually been through them all as audio books via audible as well now. In my opinion the reader/narrator that they got does a really great job giving all the characters different voices and making the stories come to life. They made a great listen for some long drives.

I enjoyed most of the stories though the earlier ones were better overall. My least favorite are definitely the novel, the story where they cross over to historical Earth, & the later stuff like everything with Rime Isle.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:25 am
by finarvyn
Scottius wrote:I enjoyed most of the stories though the earlier ones were better overall. My least favorite are definitely the novel, the story where they cross over to historical Earth, & the later stuff like everything with Rime Isle.
Your tastes certainly seem to mirror mine. I think that it's also important to remember that Leiber wrote these stories over a fifty year span of real life, and whatever writing magic he might have captured in the early days simply might not have been there five decades later. I feel like the later stories tended to duplicate the early ones too much.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:57 am
by Scottius
finarvyn wrote:Your tastes certainly seem to mirror mine. I think that it's also important to remember that Leiber wrote these stories over a fifty year span of real life, and whatever writing magic he might have captured in the early days simply might not have been there five decades later. I feel like the later stories tended to duplicate the early ones too much.
That is certainly a good point. And even in the stories I don't find as personally compelling I do feel that Leiber's writing is still strong. I just think the spirit of adventure isn't quite as strong as it once was. Then by the time they get to Rime Isle the themes introduced have changed with more of a focus on settling down and not going from one adventure to another and one girl to another. Which all feels like something an older man would explore.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:50 pm
by Shingen
I'd love an omnibus edition of some kind. I have some collections of various quality and organization, but I'd love to have a go to set to use (like I do with Howard, frex). I've gotten lazy about tracking it all down. Is there a newer one anyone knows of?

PS my first exposure to Lankhmar was the Ad&d and 2e adventures by TSR. I wonder how many else learned to like it from there, too.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:44 am
by DCCfan
Shingen wrote:I'd love an omnibus edition of some kind. I have some collections of various quality and organization, but I'd love to have a go to set to use (like I do with Howard, frex). I've gotten lazy about tracking it all down. Is there a newer one anyone knows of?

PS my first exposure to Lankhmar was the Ad&d and 2e adventures by TSR. I wonder how many else learned to like it from there, too.
That's how I found out about Lankhmar. I never did read the books until Joe challenged us to read appendix N. My main inspiration when I started playing D&D was the Dragon Lance novels. Both styles are fun to play. However Now that I have read both I much prefer the Lankhmar style of adventure. Maybe getting older has something to do with it.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:18 pm
by finarvyn
Two things to add to my original post:

(1) Swords Against the Shadowland by Robin Wayne Bailey.

My understanding is that Leiber had written out a story outline but never got around to fleshing it out, and that Bailey started from here and build his novel. I have a copy on my shelf but honestly have never read it, so I can't say much about its quality.

(2) New fiction in Tales From the Magician's Skull

This was announced in one of the e-mails sent out by Goodman Games. I can't recall if the release said which issue would feature the first story in this series, or how many of these stories would be written, but my understanding is that they would be considered "official" by the Leiber estate.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:08 am
by dustle
finarvyn wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:18 pm Two things to add to my original post:

(1) Swords Against the Shadowland by Robin Wayne Bailey.

My understanding is that Leiber had written out a story outline but never got around to fleshing it out, and that Bailey started from here and build his novel. I have a copy on my shelf but honestly have never read it, so I can't say much about its quality.

(2) New fiction in Tales From the Magician's Skull

This was announced in one of the e-mails sent out by Goodman Games. I can't recall if the release said which issue would feature the first story in this series, or how many of these stories would be written, but my understanding is that they would be considered "official" by the Leiber estate.
I read random Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser stories in high school but came back to them about fourteen years ago when Dark Horse republished the Swords books. I bought the Robin Wayne Bailey book and tried it when I'd finished the others. I don't see how anyone could read the whole thing. The prose is just terrible from the first sentence on.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:26 am
by finarvyn
I will confess that I haven't read the Bailey book, but it's been sitting on my shelf for years. It's supposed to be based on a story outline written by Leiber, but I know nothing of Bailey's writing style or prowess. Sad to hear that it doesn't measure up. :(

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:09 am
by dustle
To be fair to Bailey, I started it just after reading all of Leiber straight through, and maybe it just paled in comparison. If I went back with lowered expectations, I might enjoy it more.

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:18 pm
by GothmogIV
I am re-reading these now for the first time in 30 years. Really fun!

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:39 pm
by finarvyn
GothmogIV wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:18 pm I am re-reading these now for the first time in 30 years. Really fun!
What I find interesting is that everyone seems to equate "swords & sorcery" with fantasy, but Leiber's stories are clearly a mix of fantasy and horror. 8)

Re: Reader's guide to Lankhmar fiction

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:57 am
by BASH MAN
Just finished Swords Against Death. I definitely slept on this series for too long. It is really interesting how far apart in time these stories were published given the chronology of when they take place.