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Table 1-2 Luck Score

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:07 pm
by celticgriffon
Hi everyone,

I have a question on Table 1-2 Luck Score..

The first paragraph on pg 19 (3rd printing) states characters should roll on the chart and add or subtract their 0 level luck modifier.

In a way this limits the table results. A character that has a +1 (or more) luck modifier could never get result 1 - harsh winter result. Likewise a character with a -1 modifier could never get a wild child result.

I think i would rather see this table use a base d30 roll. Or were the results skewed with these factors in mind? Also what do you do if your result is below 1 or above 30 using rules as written?

My apologies if this has already been covered elsewhere.

Re: Table 1-2 Luck Score

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:05 pm
by Raven_Crowking
It doesn't mean add or subtract to your roll on the chart, but rather add or subtract your modifier to whatever the roll indicates.

Re: Table 1-2 Luck Score

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:24 pm
by GnomeBoy
Exactly. The augur rolled gets the add/subtract effect — it's not telling you to modify the roll on Table 1-2 (that's a straight d30 roll).

Re: Table 1-2 Luck Score

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:43 pm
by celticgriffon
Thanks everyone. I guess I find the paragraph confusing.

"After rolling 3d6 to determine a player's Luck score, roll on table 1-2 to determine which roll is affected by the character's Luck modifier. This "lucky roll" is modified by the character's starting 0-Level Luck modifier (for good or bad) in addition to all other normal modifiers. In some cases, the "lucky roll" is completely useless because the character chooses a class where it is not applicable."

I think this might be cleaner if it we changed the first two paragraphs in a subtle way. Here is my attempt:

"After rolling 3d6 to determine a player's Luck score roll 1d30 on table 1-2. This "Birth Auger / lucky roll" will provide an additional modifier to that specific circumstance. This "lucky roll" will always be modified by the 0 Level Luck Ability Score Modifier based on Table 1-1 (for good or bad). The "lucky roll" modifier will never change even if the Luck Ability changes at a later time. In some circumstances the "lucky roll" can also be modified by other normal modifiers as appropriate. In some cases the "lucky roll" is completely useless because the character chooses a class where is not applicable."

Perhaps I was the only one confused here, however. Either way please carry on. :)

Re: Table 1-2 Luck Score

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:44 pm
by GnomeBoy
I guess it all hinges on what you think the "lucky roll' means. But rolling on the chart isn't a "lucky roll", the result of that roll is the "lucky roll", though if you really like the result you rolled you might think of it as a lucky roll...!

signed
Luc E. Rolle

Re: Table 1-2 Luck Score

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:10 am
by Weisenwolf
Actually 'as written' only around one in four characters actually have a luck bonus, a similar number has a luck minus and the table is utterly irrelevant to half of the characters.

Many people house rule this either giving all characters a blanket +1 or making their own chart up. Mine looks like this:

Luck
up to 5 -1
6-15 +1
16-17 +2
18 +3

This way the birth auger applies to everyone and makes each character a little more unique and characterful rather than just half of them. I also use this for the class related luck bonus too.

Re: Table 1-2 Luck Score

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:14 am
by GnomeBoy
Weisenwolf wrote:This way the birth auger applies to everyone...
Well, to be fair, there're still Dwarfs that get a "lucky roll" of increased spell damage, and Warriors that find themselves with a bonus to turning the un-dead...

Not everyone is lucky. :wink:

Re: Table 1-2 Luck Score

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:33 am
by Weisenwolf
Good point; well made

On the other hand if the Dwarf is rather clever and manages to read a scroll................

And perhaps the Warrior is devout and able to turn...................