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Does Stamina add to HP after level 0?

Also, other than Fortitude saves, what is it used for?

Yes, it adds to HP after 1st level. There are many other applications of Stamina besides Fort saves: if your Stamina is especially low ( less than or equal to 5) then you take double damage from poisons and disease; you can make a Stamina check (roll a d20 and get your ability score or lower) to check on endurance for a particular task; the damage that some creatures do to you is based on your stamina, etc. As a judge, you can make stamina as important to the players as you want it to be...

Ok, thanks. I would probably have kept it regardless. So the way it goes is:
level 0: + Sta HP
Level 1: no Sta HP (cause that would be double dipping)
Level 2, 3, etc.: + Sta HP

BTW, where is that in the rules? I looked, but couldn't find it, and now it's bugging me.

Pesky wrote:Yes, it adds to HP after 1st level. There are many other applications of Stamina besides Fort saves: if your Stamina is especially low ( less than or equal to 5) then you take double damage from poisons and disease; you can make a Stamina check (roll a d20 and get your ability score or lower) to check on endurance for a particular task; the damage that some creatures do to you is based on your stamina, etc. As a judge, you can make stamina as important to the players as you want it to be...

I allow it to be "double dipped" so apply at 0, and then again at 1. In the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal, at MOST, you're +3hp... In all likelihood, they have a minus anyway, and having to eat it twice just makes it funnier.

orangefruitbat wrote:Ok, thanks. I would probably have kept it regardless. So the way it goes is:
level 0: + Sta HP
Level 1: no Sta HP (cause that would be double dipping)
Level 2, 3, etc.: + Sta HP

BTW, where is that in the rules? I looked, but couldn't find it, and now it's bugging me.

On page 18 in the Ability scores section it says:

the rulebook wrote:Endurance, resistance to pain, disease, and poison. Your Stamina modifier affects hit points (even at level 0) and Fortitude saving throws.

so it definitely looks like you get your HP bonus/penalty at both Level 0 and Level 1.
In my game I've actually always given Level 1 characters maximum hit points for their dice - keeps the players happy that they don't have a Warrior with 1 hit point from Level 0 and 1 hit point from Level 1.. for a grand total of 2.
And doing that doesn't reduce the deadliness at all, if our history is anything to go by...

orangefruitbat wrote:Ok, thanks. I would probably have kept it regardless. So the way it goes is:
level 0: + Sta HP
Level 1: no Sta HP (cause that would be double dipping)

Why? It's a level up. He gets a hit dice, he gets the Stamina bonus to the hit dice. It's just like any other level up.

Pesky wrote:Yes, it adds to HP after 1st level.

Hey orangefruitbat, I meant to say "after zeroth level," but for some reason I was thinking about first level and typed "1st." While what I wrote is correct, I didn't mean to imply it skips first level. Sorry for any confusion I caused

Ok, HP at every level then (they're going to need them...)