DCC and 5e D&D
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DCC and 5e D&D
I've been reading the twitter live feeds and live blogs associated with the D&D Experience. Most info (granted, little that there is) is coming from coverage of the seminars they are running. What's struck me is how much resonance there is with the DCC RPG; magic should be mysterious, magic items shouldn't be dolled out like sweets, things should be grittier,etc. It's like they've been reading the forums here and messing with the beta and taking pages from the hymn book. Then again, I suppose it's an OSR vibe that coming through and DCC is got that to. The clincher will be when they announce the use of a d7!
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Re: DCC and 5e D&D
Well, I know that 5E will have a strong 3E/4E influence, but it does seem like WotC has taken notice that old school RPGs have some wonderful characteristics. DCC has a great philosophy and I can see where 5E could learn some awesome lessons from looking to see what it does.
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Re: DCC and 5e D&D
I playtested 5e his weekend and I saw influences from all editions and several D&D like games.
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Re: DCC and 5e D&D
Interesting. Can you share more information? (I've signed up to be a playtester but as of yet haven't gotten any playtest files. )fjw70 wrote:I playtested 5e his weekend and I saw influences from all editions and several D&D like games.
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"Don't ask me what you need to hit. Just roll the die and I will let you know!"
-- Dave Arneson
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-- Joseph Goodman
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"The worthy GM never purposely kills players' PCs, He presents opportunities for the rash and unthinking players to do that all on their own."
-- Gary Gygax
"Don't ask me what you need to hit. Just roll the die and I will let you know!"
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Re: DCC and 5e D&D
Sorry I had to sign an NDA. This was the playtest at D&DXP and not the general beta playtest that is suppose to happen in the spring.finarvyn wrote:Interesting. Can you share more information? (I've signed up to be a playtester but as of yet haven't gotten any playtest files. )fjw70 wrote:I playtested 5e his weekend and I saw influences from all editions and several D&D like games.
Re: DCC and 5e D&D
Yes, the more I read, the more influences from other games I see. Mike Mearls even stated they've been playing Trail of Cthulhu which I can definitely see in some of the new rules they've talked about (and Robin Laws wrote some of the rules for 4e DMG II). But I suppose roleplaying rules tend to be largely derivative and circular so it's understandable to apparently see influences here and there. A bit like music.fjw70 wrote:I playtested 5e his weekend and I saw influences from all editions and several D&D like games.
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Another comment by Monte Cooke that has DCC RPG overtones to my mind;
From Legends and Lore 2/13/2012We are also experimenting with variations on task resolution. What if, for example, something that used to give you a bonus or a penalty instead modified the dice you roll? A bonus to your attack roll might be the ability to roll 2d20 and take the best roll, for example. Or maybe instead of having a flat bonus, you got a bonus die to roll and add (or, in the case of a penalty, subtract)?
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I thought of DCC as well.Stainless wrote:Another comment by Monte Cooke that has DCC RPG overtones to my mind;
From Legends and Lore 2/13/2012We are also experimenting with variations on task resolution. What if, for example, something that used to give you a bonus or a penalty instead modified the dice you roll? A bonus to your attack roll might be the ability to roll 2d20 and take the best roll, for example. Or maybe instead of having a flat bonus, you got a bonus die to roll and add (or, in the case of a penalty, subtract)?
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I also play tested 5th ed at DDXP and although I signed an NDA, I belive I would be safe to say that it would not be much work, based on what I saw there, to convert the DCC adventures over and use them. So even if your not a DCC RPG fan but loved their 3rd ed adventures, I would recomend picking up the new DCCRPG adventures as they will likely be convertible. I read some where that some of the first playtests of 5th ed used a converted version of the 3.0 adventure "The Sunless Citidale."
Then again, this is based on early play test material for both systems so I could be wrong....
Then again, this is based on early play test material for both systems so I could be wrong....
Re: DCC and 5e D&D
fjw70 wrote:I thought of DCC as well.Stainless wrote:Another comment by Monte Cooke that has DCC RPG overtones to my mind;
From Legends and Lore 2/13/2012We are also experimenting with variations on task resolution. What if, for example, something that used to give you a bonus or a penalty instead modified the dice you roll? A bonus to your attack roll might be the ability to roll 2d20 and take the best roll, for example. Or maybe instead of having a flat bonus, you got a bonus die to roll and add (or, in the case of a penalty, subtract)?
I think this was in a statment titled something like "Dice tricks" and was a lead in into a poll on how different systems use dice in different ways, and was polling to see what DnD players thought about them showing up in the next edition.