Need to give character a STD

[MrHemlocks]

WOW! I am tired of it! I like the guy and see him as a friend but enough is enough. Seems like in every game I run he makes a female character and makes her a lesbian. Than he tries to have his character sleep with all the female NPCs and player characters. I asked him to stop his actions and keep them away from my table but he refuses to listen...for the most part.

So, I need his female character punished with a nasty STD Any suggestions and how would it best play out it DCC? Make it nasty

[Maxwell Luther]

WOW! I am tired of it! I like the guy and see him as a friend but enough is enough. Seems like in every game I run he makes a female character and makes her a lesbian. Than he tries to have his character sleep with all the female NPCs and player characters. I asked him to stop his actions and keep them away from my table but he refuses to listen...for the most part.

So, I need his female character punished with a nasty STD Any suggestions and how would it best play out it DCC? Make it nasty

I have a feeling this thread is not going to go well for you, my friend, but in the spirit of being helpful, I'll sing you a little ditty...

Inflammation of the foreskin
Reminds me of your smile
I've had ballanital chancroids
For quite a little while
I gave my heart to NSU
That lovely night in June
I ache for you my darling
And I hope you get well soon.

My penile warts, your herpes
My syphilitic sores
Your moenelial infection
How I miss you more and more
You dobie's itch, my scrumpox
Our lovely gonorrhea
At least we both were lying
When we said that we were clear

Our syphilitic kisses
Sealed the secret of our tryst
You gave me scrotal pustules
With a quick flickof your wrist
Your trichovaginitis
Sent shivers down my spine
I got snail tracks in my anus
When your spirochetes met mine.

Gonococcal urethritis, streptococcal ballinitis,
Meningo myelitis, diplococcal cephalitis,
Epididimitis, interstitial keratitis,
Syphalitic choroiditis, and anterior u-ve-i-tis.

My clapped out genetalia
Is not so bad for me
As the complete and utter failure
Every time I try to pee.
My doctor says my buboes
Are the worst he's ever seen
My scrotum's painted orange
And my balls are turning green.

My heart is very tender
Though my parts are awful raw
You might have been infected
But you never were a bore
I'm dying of your love my love
I'm your spirochaetal clown
I've left my body to science
But I'm afraid they've turned it down.

Gonococcal urethritis, streptococcal ballinitis,
Meningo myelitis, diplococcal cephalitis,
Epididimitis, interstitial keratitis,
Syphalitic choroiditis, and anterior u-ve-I-tis.

For details of the above ailments, consult your Hitchhiker's Guide...

http://h2g2.com/approved_entry/A11288955

[smathis]

One of the mishap results in the Party Like It's 1899 section of Transylvanian Adventures features a character contracting syphillis.

Some rules in there for it.

There's also the "Jilted Psychotic Lover" result on the Life's Been Good to Me So Far table. That might be better than a venereal disease.

Book Two has a Gypsy Curse table. Some interesting results in there as well.

[Karaptis]

What is with that? I had a player like that too. I just booted him by telling him the group disbanded and never called him back.

[Gameogre]

Just have every npc rebuff him/her and steer away from any unwelcome activity. Talk with him again and let him know its not funny,not cool and if it keeps up you will put a stop to it. Don't give him a STD. Just put a end to the entire thing.

Seriously,sex,real world politics,real world religion and other game killers are just not fun for me(and sounds like you).

If it keeps up strike the character down with a heart attack. Just have him drop dead. If you are feeling nice give him a few heart palpitations first as a warning. YOU hold all the cards here man. It really isn't possible for him to bend you to his will and bring sex into the game unless that is what you want to do.

If it doesn't work just have him drop dead mid sentence,every time he does it.


That goes for any obnoxious game ruining behavior. If you are firm and put a stop to it right off the bat most people worth playing with will get the idea and back off such behavior. If they don't end there fun before it ends yours.

Now all that said I don't pass judgement what other people do or allow in there own games. I don't mean to throw criticisms at anyone Else's play style. If you and your players enjoy real life political discussion,religious debate and hard fantasy porn ( ) in your games more power to you! It's just whatever the table rules on such things are at your table,they should be observed.

[finarvyn]

I'll admit that I'd never seen anyone play cross-gender in my first 30 or more years of play, then finally had a player do this in a game where I've played recently. Never had it as a GM.

I guess the key for me is that I always assume that gender isn't important in play, and that each player runs a character of the same gender as he or she is in the real world. I don't put artificial limits on the characters based on gender, I avoid highly sexual situations in my campaigns, and there just aren't that many times when the gender of a character even comes up in my games.

Weird.

Of course, my campaigns are usually "kid friendly" as well, so I guess I play a pretty sanitized version of the game.

[Raven_Crowking]

Way back when I first started playing, I would guess early 1980 after I had a few games under my belt, I began to devise the "family" of my main character (who was a magic-user). As a result, I had several characters I could play (Holmes Basic), of both genders.

It wasn't about getting jollies; it was about the "reality" of the game world, which really grabbed me at that time.

There is nothing wrong with playing any character you like, but if you are hoping that "my character is a jerk" somehow excuses you from being a jerk, you will not be invited back to play. OTOH, back in high school I did run into some of the adolescent fantasy stuff when I was DMing. I resolved it by simply (1) applying the natural consequences, and (2) making it clear that I was not happy with the behaviour.

As to (1), an STD is mild. Have a Goddess of Love (Eros) appear unto the character, as Ishtar does in the Epic of Gilgamesh, and have her be equally destructive to her lovers. Let her offend a witch, who curses her. Or let her make the "beautiful woman" a conquest before revealing her as really an ugly crone (see Poul Anderson's The Broken Sword for an example). In terms of any form of disease, target stats and make it unclear whether or not the damage is permanent. Or just let her offend enough people to be run out of town. Or, better yet, let "guilt by association" taint the party, so that everyone suffers, and then let the party deal with it.

As to (2), simply draw the curtain, with a "yes" or "no" as to success of failure, and refuse to elaborate. Turn your attention to the other players. Let them do something interesting, and if the offending player wants to join in, remind him that his character is otherwise engaged.

Best of luck.

[yell0w_lantern]

Syphilis would take a while to actually kill the character although the various possible symptoms leading up to madness and death might be interesting. Then again, role playing Tabes Dorsalis might be boring. Actually, any real world STD might be a little dull in a fantasy game. I thinks some exotic fantasy STD, curse, or demon might be more fun.

However, if you would like a list, this is from Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine 15th Edition page 839:
Primarily STD
Neisseria gonorrhoeae
Chlamydia trachomatis
Treponema pallidum
Haemophilus ducreyi
Chalymnobacterium granulomatis
Ureaplasma urealyticum
HIV types 1 and 2
Human T cell lymphotropic virus type I
Herpes simplex virus type 2 (type 1 is cold sores)
Human Papillomavirus (can cause genital warts, increase risk of cancer)
Hepatitis B virus
Molluscum contagiosum virus (more warts; small but many)
Tricchomonas vaginalis
Phthirus pubis

Possibly transmitted thusly
Mycoplasma huminis
Mycoplasma genitalis
Gardnerella vaginalis (smells bad)
Group B streptococcus
Mobiluncus species
Helicobacter cinaedi
Helicobacter fennelliae
Cytomegalovirus
Human T cell lymphotropic virus type II
Hepatitis C/D viruses (possibly)
Herpes Simplex virus 1 (yes, you can get cold sores "down there")
Epstein Barr virus (possibly)
Kaposi's sarcoma-associated herpes virus
Transfusion-transmitted virus (seems unlikely without transfusion technology but I suppose some snake oil salesman might rig something up)
Candida albicans (yeast infection)
Sarcoptes scabiei (yes, scabies, the little bugs)

Oral-Fecal Route
Shigella species
Campylobacter species
Hepatitis A virus
Giardia lamblia
Entamoeba histolytica


A few thoughts:
There is no medical science as we know it today, much less antibiotics in a fantasy sword and sorcery world. Therefore, infections are much deadlier. Even a urinary tract infection could be fatal. Blood-letting and prayer might be the only commonly available treatments. Depending on the circumstances, a quest may need to be undertaken. Furthermore, there is no germ theory at these early technologic stages and as a result, you would not have anything more than common names.

I think you do not want to use something slow if the idea is to curb the behavior. You want an illness that is obviously associated with the behavior and unpleasant. Shigella seems an obvious choice for its graphic nature, ease of contracting through the proximity necessary for this character's mode of operation, limiting activity (hard to adventure when you have bloody diarrhea), and potential lethality in a primitive society (dehydration, fever, potassium deficiency).

Still, I think you could just make something up.

[Skyscraper]

If you play into the STD line, you're playing HIS game, not yours. You're making a game development around the sex, which is what you seem to want to avoid at all costs. What's likely to happen is that he'll play along that game element, for example by questing to rid himself of the disease, or simply asking a priest to cure him if he has access to one. Or worse, he'll continue trying to have sexual intercouse with oher NPCs to transmit his STD to others.

Really, I think the STD is no a solution to your problem at all, quite on the contrary. He's going to have a lot of fun around that game element you introduce.

If your end motivation is to have him stop playing lesbian female characters that want to have sex with other NPCs and/or sex-driven characters generally, then

1) discuss the problem with him and let him know that you have no fun with this. If he doesn't seem to care, then:
2) tell him to simply not come to play at your table if this is what he wants to do.
3) if you wont throw him out of the game and he insists on doing what he does now, simply do not play up to his role-play when he acts towards that goal in-game. "Whatever" is a good answer, then ask another player what his PC does while you ignore his pleas for roleplay towards the sex part.

[Raven_Crowking]

Skyscraper is wise.

[MrHemlocks]

If you play into the STD line, you're playing HIS game, not yours. You're making a game development around the sex, which is what you seem to want to avoid at all costs. What's likely to happen is that he'll play along that game element, for example by questing to rid himself of the disease, or simply asking a priest to cure him if he has access to one. Or worse, he'll continue trying to have sexual intercouse with oher NPCs to transmit his STD to others.

Really, I think the STD is no a solution to your problem at all, quite on the contrary. He's going to have a lot of fun around that game element you introduce.

If your end motivation is to have him stop playing lesbian female characters that want to have sex with other NPCs and/or sex-driven characters generally, then

1) discuss the problem with him and let him know that you have no fun with this. If he doesn't seem to care, then:
2) tell him to simply not come to play at your table if this is what he wants to do.
3) if you wont throw him out of the game and he insists on doing what he does now, simply do not play up to his role-play when he acts towards that goal in-game. "Whatever" is a good answer, then ask another player what his PC does while you ignore his pleas for roleplay towards the sex part.

Yep, your right! I feel there is so much craziness in the real world I do not want or need it at my table. People that dwell on sex, in game or out, are at such a low level of enlightenment

[Skyscraper]

Yep, your right! I feel there is so much craziness in the real world I do not want or need it at my table. People that dwell on sex, in game or out, are at such a low level of enlightenment

Hmmm. Sex is a complex thing in my very humble and non-professionally oriented opinion. Sexual drive has a lot to do (still IMVHANPOO ) with one's physical chemical reactions, e.g. generation of hormones and other stuff that I know little about; but that have influence on one's mind, willpower, decision-making. And past experiences also trace paths in a person's mind. I feel lucky to have had a happy childhood and to be driven towards what is probably thoutht of as a generally acceptable sexual behavior, because otherwise for all the enlightenment that I might have or wish I had, it might well be me doing those things that I presently find unacceptable.

I do not condone reprehensible acts of course, of sexual nature or otherwise. But I try to think beyond the act itself to imagine or understand what lies underneath. And then I try to empathise with the person in question, wondering: what if I had lived his life, been born in his family, with his body, would I have had the same flaw? Or a worse one? This general approach leads to trying to love everyone, whoever they are, even if I do not accept all their actions.

My two philosophical cents, whatever they might be worth to you

Peace,

Sky

[Raven_Crowking]

At the risk of being self-serving, there's a scenario in CE3: The Folk of Osmon that you might be able to use.

http://endzeitgeist.com/ezg-reviews-ce3-folk-osmon/

[Karaptis]

Tell the player if they can have sex with the real player, then they can have sex with the player's character. Maybe your problem player will discover something about themself or their other players!

[Skyscraper]

Tell the player if they can have sex with the real player, then they can have sex with the player's character. Maybe your problem player will discover something about themself or their other players!

The problem is that the characters the player wants his PC to have sex with, are the NPCs. So he'd essentially be asking the guy to have sex with him :-/

[Gameogre]

It's never the sexy attractive female players that have to show their freak side at the rpg table is it?

Nope,just has to be some 300 pound dirty ape with bathing issues that just HAS to leer across the table at you.

[cjoepar]

ewww.

I would just tell him you're not into gratifying his sexual urges at the gaming table any more than you would be in the bedroom. Explain that part of being an adult is to know when to keep those thoughts to yourself.

[boneguard]

It's never the sexy attractive female players that have to show their freak side at the rpg table is it?

Nope,just has to be some 300 pound dirty ape with bathing issues that just HAS to leer across the table at you.

Hobgoblin, ogre, bugbear female would work well for that too >:)

[Gameogre]

It's never the sexy attractive female players that have to show their freak side at the rpg table is it?

Nope,just has to be some 300 pound dirty ape with bathing issues that just HAS to leer across the table at you.

Hobgoblin, ogre, bugbear female would work well for that too >:)

That would just lead to both of us sitting at the table leering at each other.

If you think that one of these damn dirty apes would think twice about getting it on with a Bugbear or Ogre or for that matter not use it as a excuse to try and send me running for the trashcan after vividly describing there twisted mating rituals in excruciating detail,you have not been paying attention.

Nope,the only way to combat such behavior is to just shut it down from the get go and pray like heck it didn't randomly come across to them as humorous. Otherwise next week I might sit down at my table with a 450 pound, cross dressing, in character, Ogre with a leering agenda.

[GnomeBoy]

You mention cross-dressing like it's a bad thing.

*straightens crinolines*

[Skyscraper]

Yeah, and you mention being a dirty ape like it's a bad thing.

*scratches oily butt-hair*

[Tortog]

Skyscraper is wise.

The one time I had to deal with this behavior in a game group I inflicted the STD penalty on the character (a really horrible one that involved necromancy and leprosy) but that just made it more fun for the player... Eventually I asked what everyone else at the table wanted to do about this problem and we agreed to give person one more chance, but the player in question just couldn't understand the idea that some things should be private, so we asked him to leave. Besides, in a D&D environment the availability of divine healing takes all the fear out of the possibility of getting sick.

To quote Rich Burlew (OOTS - introduction to Snips, Snails, and Dragon tales) "...the powers and abilities associated with D&D characters shove most traditional storytelling idioms into a canvas sack and then beat them with hammers until they stop moving."

[Skyscraper]

Skyscraper is wise.

Was it the oily butt-hair?

[Tortog]

Skyscraper is wise.

Was it the oily butt-hair?

The comedy value of your last post (oily-butt hair comment) just seemed to act as an ironic underscore IMO and added weight to your previous statements. So, in context with your other posts... yes. But I was in a hurry and should have been more specific. Wasn't trying to cause trouble...