Summoned monsters and the pentacle

Fenris Ulfhamr · Post by **Fenris Ulfhamr** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:35 pm

So as best I've been able to understand, the Monster Summoning spell requires the monster to remain inside the drawn pentacle...is this correct? You basically summon a stationary monster?

Ravenheart87 · Post by **Ravenheart87** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:51 am

Only if the casting roll is below 20. As you can see results above 20 lack the "as long as it remains in the pentacle" part.

Fenris Ulfhamr · Post by **Fenris Ulfhamr** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:49 pm

...so under 20 Summon Monster is of dubious utility. I mean, I guess you could study a monster-in-a-bottle (or pentacle) for the duration, right? I'm having a difficult time imagining other possible usages....

GnomeBoy · Post by **GnomeBoy** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:48 am

Fenris Ulfhamr wrote:...I'm having a difficult time imagining other possible usages....

A few ideas, off the top of my head:

• The 'lobby' of the wizard's tower is inscribed with a pentagram — the monster there summoned can guard the entire entryway...

• Upon a mountaintop, the monster can serve as a look-out. It looks 'native' but the PCs are hiding nearby, not tipping their hand that they are present.

• The monster can guard the camp while everyone focuses on some other task.

You'll notice it doesn't say how big a pentacle can be... Nor does it limit the intelligence of the monster. It also must be a monster native to the plane where the spell is cast... that could mean you could gather information about the plane you are on (e.g., you get ambushed by a bunch of Kith as you arrive on The Purple Planet; using the remains of the slain Kith, you summon one and try to drag information out of it...).

It also means that if the Wizard specifically wants a free-roaming monster, he's got to be prepared to Spellburn or Luck Burn to get it...

Raven_Crowking · Post by **Raven_Crowking** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:15 pm

You may also wish to avail yourself of the monster's special abilities.

Fenris Ulfhamr · Post by **Fenris Ulfhamr** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:00 pm

Research makes sense, but for whatever reason, my brain demanded a tiny pentacle that constrained the monster to just stand in place (perfect for study), but room or courtyard-sized pentacles would be indeed possible as the spell is worded. Thanks for unsticking my brain!

GnomeBoy · Post by **GnomeBoy** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:18 pm

Glad to be of service.

Raven_Crowking wrote:You may also wish to avail yourself of the monster's special abilities.

True.

Also, you say you need the venom of some deadly beast? Might be easier to deal with one trapped in a magic circle, than to find and deal with one in the wild.

There's plenty of potential...

VladtheLad · Post by **VladtheLad** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:40 am

Components for Make Potion spell. Those dragon scales dont grow on trees you know!
Though the fun fact is that you will need some part from a dragon summon him.

morrism · Post by **morrism** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:58 pm

Is the venom effective than using weapons? What about the dragons? Will the dragons blow too much fire to fight with the opponents?

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